Archive - May, 2009

Nashville and Youth Ministry Education

I'm in Nashville for a few days taking part in a great discussion about Youth Ministry Education.  Met most of these folks last year and am really glad to be back.  Some are old friends, some are new, all love the lord and youth ministry.  Praying through how we can be more effective at training youth workers but also realizing that the big point of our time together is to build relationships, network and dream.

The Ordination process in the PCUSA can be rough.

I don't think I've ever written a blog post about this so I thought I'd put something up today.  This comes after reading a couple posts put up by Adam Walker Cleaveland and Tony Jones about the PCUSA Ordination Process.    The just of the story is that Adam is a candidate for ordination, has dual degrees from Princeton Theological Seminary, has passed all his ordination exams yet is being told by a Presbytery he is transferring too that it is not enough and he needs to go back and take 7 additional classes in order to be considered for ordination.   Now I don't know the finer details of Adam's process but I have read through much of the responses on both their blogs and is has really caused me to think.

In 2000 I entered into the ordination process.  At the time I was the Director of Youth Ministry at Bel Air Presbyterian Church.  I was also working on a Masters in Divinity Degree from Fuller Theological Seminary.
My process involved quite a bit of growth.  I was at the time a pretty raw youth minister who said what he thought a bit too carelessly.  The journey through the inquirer phase was a good one but also really difficult.  I often felt a bit alone trying to navigate the waters of the process.  My committee was great but I didn't quite know how to utilize them.  After a couple years as an inquirer I became a candidate right as I finished seminary.  I remember having to schedule my meetings to move to candidate stage really far in advance.  At that time I was beginning to question where God was calling me.  We were living in a small house in Van Nuys California and had a couple of sons.  A position opened up at a beach church in San Diego and it seemed like a good fit.  It was a large evangelical church but had a different view of the ordination process and who they would ordain.  I made the decision to leave the PCUSA ordination process at that point because I felt like I wasn't ready for it.

After a very short time at that new church I realized that I missed the PCUSA.  I realized after I left it that  the theology, the ecclesiology and the polity were who I was.  But, I had made a huge move, bought a new house and wasn't able to go back to the PCUSA.  I made the decision at that time to pursue further theological training and decided to pursue a Doctorate studying at George Fox Seminary with Leonard Sweet.  This was one of the best decisions I've ever made.  In the three years I was at George Fox I grew in ways that I never thought I could.  I was challenged to think through all my ministry paradigms and practices as I knew them.  In the middle of that program I lost my job at the church in San Diego and was in the middle of a job hunt.  Interestingly all of my top possibilities were in the PCUSA.  God was doing something in leading me back.

After a long and very good process with a couple of great PCUSA churches I was led to Highland Park Presbyterian Church in Dallas Texas.  At HPPC I have the opportunity to be a Youth Minister using my gifts and skills learned from many years of youth ministry to lead an amazing team of youth workers.  I feel like God has put me in the perfect situation and I feel blessed every day to be in it.

I have had quite a few people ask me if I am going to enter back into the ordination process.  The answer is for now: Yes.  I made the decision that I would not think about that until finishing my doctorate which I did this year.  I recently received my file from the Pacific Presbytery and am working with Grace Presbytery to begin the process again.  This time I'm entering into the process with a lot of hope because I'm doing it at the right time of my life, my ministry and my career.  I know that the process tends to weed people out as I believe it should.  I'm a bit nervous to begin meeting with new committees with different expectations and ideas of what I should and shouldn't do in order to be ordained.

I guess I should just say I'll keep you posted.  I don't know how this will go but I'm hopeful because I believe God is leading me back into it.

Olympia one more time.

Last time I was in Olympia it snowed for 8 days and we were stuck here with our kids unable to go out. Today it’s amazingly beautiful and I wish I didn’t have to leave.

Getting ready to head to Seattle. Big 70 birthday lunch for my dad and then a flight back to Dallas.

Trip has been great but I’m looking forward to being home for over a month before summer season starts. Olympia one more time.

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