Archive - February, 2009

Part 2: Approaching the Church. Tips to get your resume read.

Here’s a quick bit about my youth ministry background.  I have worked at four churches.  My first church I was a part-time intern and ended up being the interim high school pastor  but wasn’t qualified for the youth pastor position because they wanted someone with a seminary degree.  My second church I was at for 6 years and it is where I really grew up and learned how to lead.  I only left that church because we decided we wanted to raise our kids outside of Los Angeles.  My third church was a great place but a bad fit for me at the beach in San Diego.  I was there two years before we parted ways. I have been at my current church two years and don’t anticipate moving anytime soon.  I’ve learned a lot going through 4 job searches at these churches.  I’ve also learned a ton because each of these churches was considered a “mega-church”  and had huge staffs and I’ve had the luck of heading up many search committees to hire youth staff, college staff, young adult staff, pastors, interns and other directors.

I have been the head of search processes where I have had almost 200 resumes come in for a particular job.  I’ve also applied for jobs where they had that many applicants.  Currently I have a youth staff of 16 people and am in the process of restaffing a couple of positions.  Today I had a phone interview and a lunch interview.  I also read through multiple resumes, answered a number of e-mails and even responded to some facebook messages about jobs.

Here’s some tips that I have learned,  seen, used, tried, heard about and thought about.  I’m going to list them in number order.  The numbers don’t represent anything except a system of keeping things in order.  There are probably a number of posts like this you could google but this is going to be specific to youth ministry.

1. Resume: Your resume needs to be neat, clean, organized, simple and specific to youth ministry. You should have all of your experience listed and tailor the resume to the job you are applying for.  If it is a youth director position the readers of your resume want to see that you have experience in youth ministry.  We don’t want to read a padded resume that lists every job you’ve ever had, we probably don’t need to know you were on a sports team in college,  we don’t really care about your GPA (props though to those of you who post your gpa on your resume when it is low that shows us humility on your part).  I would recommend proofing your resume and having someone else proof it.  Chances are your resume will get read by many people so typos and weird structure will be seen.  You should also make sure that if your resume has a “goal” section listed on it that it is specific to youth ministry.  I received a resume this week that said “I’m looking for a job in education as an administrator at a private Christian school”  um hello we’re a church.  Take the effort to tailor your resume for us.  Another thing I like to see on resumes is a little section that tells me more about you than jobs, education and references.  Tell me a little bit about what you are into, what you enjoy doing and who you are as a person.

2. Cover Letter: Don’t underestimate this as the first thing we ever read about you.  It’s your chance to let us know about your resume.  It gives you the opportunity to minimize some of the things I see when I read your resume.  If I see in your resume that you haven’t ever worked “full time” in a church you should let me know in the cover letter why you are ready for full-time work.  If you resume shows a pattern of changing jobs every two years you should probably be prepared to reference that in your cover letter.  Acceptable answers to why you’ve moved jobs would be “I finished college and moved back to my parents house so I had to leave that position.”    Cover letters should tell us why you are interested in youth ministry,  what drives you as a person and what you are passionate about.  It could be your only chance to get a foot in the door so you want to take some time to make sure you do it right.

3. Mail it in:  Here’s a pet peeve of mine that you can read with a grain of salt.  Not everyone thinks about htis the way I do but it is something that you can do to give yourself a better chance of having your resume read.  When I do searches I typically receive a ton of e-mailed resumes.  Here’s what I think about e-mails.  It takes almost no time to e-mail in a resume.  You know it and I know it.  It takes you very little commitment to e-mail your resume to me.  It’s like the old adage that if you ask enough girls to kiss you one of them finally will.  I usually have our first cut in any interview process be us requiring candidates to send us a hard copy of their resume, cover letter and a teaching cd/dvd.  It takes much more time (and a little money) to send one in.  If you aren’t willing to do it we aren’t willing to waste a lot of time on you. One thing you want to do when you mail it in is send it flat.  Do not fold anything you are mailing to us.  If you fold it we can’t just open it up, hole punch it and put it in a binder.  You’ve now made us have to photo copy your resume before we can punch it and put it in the binder.  That extra step is not good for you.

4. Know who to contact: This might be a little sneaky but I advocate it anyways.  Sometimes it’s tough to know who to send your resume too.  I’ve gotten resumes this week addressed to “To whom it may concern”,  “Mr. or Mrs. Rood”, “The search committe at HPPC”, “Dear sir” and a number of other more random salutations.  It’s pretty simple to find out who to send your resume to.  Call the church and ask to speak to the youth minsitry assistant or if they don’t have one just ask the main operator who to send it to.  On the sneaky side you might even introduce yourself to the asssitant and tell them you are sending in a resume and ask them to look for it.  I’ve even found that assistants can be a great source of information about the job, church or the person leading the search committee.  If you have them on the phone ask them some questions.  More often then not they will have good answers for you and be willing to share them.  There is a good chance they are a part of the search process when it comes to opening resumes, making copies of them,  keeping them in a binder, sending out letters and setting up interviews.  I even have a little deal going with my amazing assistant where she reads through all the resumes and gives everyone a nickname and her writes her first impression on a sticky that she posts on the resume when she puts it in a binder.

5. Follow up Call or E-mail:  I always appreciate it when someone leaves me a message or sends me an e-mail and lets me know they have sent in their resume.  This is an “extra step” that might get your resume noticed or pulled out of a pile.  With 100′s of resumes coming in you want to do whatever you can to stand out.

6. Pictures:  This might be a little controversial (and perhaps illegal) but I’ll say it anyways.  I am a huge fan of you sending in a picture of yourself that we can see who we are reading about.  We need to make a connection to your resume and having a picture of you on it or with it just gives us a better idea of who you are.

7. E-mail Address:  Ok this is maybe overlooked by most people but I want to stress that this is important.  I’ve gotten several resumes lately that have e-mails listed on them from very strange e-mail addresses.  You should think through what your e-mail says about you.   larsrood@gmail.com is a simple e-mail and is just my name.  If I see an e-mail like that I tend to not think twice about it.  But if your e-mail is “Darkvampirelover@hotmail.com” there is a chance I’m going to wonder something about you.  Additionally if you are using an e-mail from an old company like AOL or from your cable provider I might wonder how net savvy your really are.

8. Cd/DVD:   We almost always ask for a cd/dvd that has a teaching on it.  We use that to just find out what your teaching style is, how engaging you are and to see if you have a teaching gift.  We’ve also asked sometimes send us a dvd introduction.  That gives us a chance to get to know you and find out who you are.  I want to stress the importance of this part of the process.  If you want to impress us and stand out here you will do it in this piece.  I can’t tell you the number of horrible cd/dvd’s I’ve had to listen to in the last bunch of years.  If you send me a cd that is of poor quality, doesn’t work well or skips,  isn’t edited well or isn’t a good message we will probably pass it on pretty quickly.  I recommend doing a couple of things to get read.  1. Worry about the production quality of your message.  If it doesn’t sound good we won’t listen to it.  Take the time to learn how to record properly.  If your message isn’t of good quality then rerecord it.  Better to send in a message that you gave to your dog that sounds good then to send us a cd of you teaching to your group that sounds bad.  2. Make it look good.  We file all of the cd/dvd’s we get in sleeves in a binder.  If you have simply taken a sharpy and written your name on it then it won’t stand out as much as if you printed a picture on it or even more simple if it was just printed with your name, the talk title and the date.  3. Include an extra and surprise us.  This is a great thing to do because it will make your cd/dvd stand out.  If you have the opportunity to include a special note, video message or videos from your current ministry or anthing else that we don’t expect it’ll go a long ways.  I hired a great junior high leader once who made a whole video for us telling us why he loved youth ministry.  He put a lot of work into shooting and editing it and we were impressed and kept showing it to more people because it was great.

9. Links to Blogs, online media and other stuff about you:  Please know that we will google you.  We will find out everything about you that is online.  Better for you to tell us about your blog or anything else you do online.  Even better do some stuff for us.  We’d love to see some of your videos, your writings, more of your teachings or a website you’ve designed.

10. Do your research:  It is really important for us to know that you have done some research learning about our community and our church.  Referencing things you heard in our online messages is a great way to show us you are serious.  Doing research about the community where the church is shows us that you are actually thinking this could be a place you might want to move.  Asking questions about recent youth ministry activities, retreats or church wide events or services is a great way to show us you took the extra effort to find out about us.

That’s just a few tips.  There are probably a bunch of other things that could be said and I’m hoping that some of it will end up in the comment section.

Series: Finding a job and negotiating with a church.

Part 1: Looking for a job

Part 2: Approaching the church. Tips to get your resume read.

Part 3: Tips for Interviewing. What interviews to be prepared for.

Part 4: Negotiation 101.  All the things you should consider.

Part 1: Looking for a job

I decided to back up a little bit and talk first about how you find a job.  I’m guessing that in the Youth Ministry world a lot of people don’t realize that where you find out about positions will have a lot to say about what type of negotiating you will be able to do.  For example if the only place you look for jobs is in the “Employment” section of a newspaper you are severely limiting the type and quality of jobs you will be applying for.

There are  3 main ways that you can go about looking for a new youth ministry job. 

Online Job boards

Recruiter Services

Referrals.

Online Job Boards:   The granddaddy of search engines for youth ministry jobs is Youth Specialties . If you don’t know what YS is then you might want to do some homework because having a solid understanding of their training and resources is something you will need when you negotiate. The YS site is uptdated regularly and really easy to use.  Another great site that isn’t just for youth ministry is Churchstaffing.com This site isn’t just for youth ministry but typically has a number of youth ministry jobs listed.  What I like about this site is that churches actually have to pay to post jobs so immediately you know if it is there that they are taking their job search seriously and are committed to finding good candidates and investing money to do that.    Another online resource that is a good place to look is the Willow Creek Exchange. The exchange is made up of the Willow Creek network churches (of which there are a ton) and it is sometimes lists jobs that aren’t in other places.  Another great resource to look at is on the websites of Christian Colleges and Seminaries as they often have them as resources for students and alumni and there will often be some great jobs put up there.  Fuller Seminary where I went is a good resource. There are a ton of other online job boards, your denomination probably has one.   Several youth ministry magazines such as Group or YouthWorkers Journal are also good places to start.

Tech Tip: One thing that I have done in the past when doing job searches is to create a bookmark folder on my toolbar that has all the links for each job search engine listed.  This is pretty easy to do in Firefox or Safari.  Then what you can do each morning is simply right click on the folder in your Bookmark menu and you should see a menu that gives you the option to “Open all in tabs”  That’s a easy time saver to open up all the search sites at one time and see if any new jobs have been posted.

Recruiter Services: In recent years there have been a number of organizations that have been formed to help churches find the right people for their youth ministry needs.  Some of these organizations are M7:7 staffing and Youth Ministry Architects.  These ministries can help take your resume and skill set and match you up with one of their client churches.  Some of these organizations actively recruit great youth workers who might not have thought about leaving their job and moving to another one.  You might try to use them and see what type of ministries and churches they represent.  They might know of jobs that are not being officiallly publicised on search engines for a variety of different reasons.

Referrals:  The age old belief that it is “Not what you know but who you know” is still alive today and maybe even stronger than ever.  With the rise of social networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and myspace connecting us to literally thousands more people than ever before you now have access to friends and aquaintances from every stage of your life as well as their friends and network.  It’s not surprising anymore to post a note on your Facebook page about looking for a job and to have many leads in a very short amount of time.  Referals also can come offline too.  You should do some work with your phone to contact people you have worked with before and see if they can help.  One of my best ever resources for referrals was a Christian camp I worked at for a number of years after college.  I got my first two youth ministry jobs through connections that I had made at the camp.  Years later on the hiring end I called friends from that camp and asked who they had seen that I should look at hiring.   Sometimes referrals just get you job leads but other times they can actually get you in the door to an interview.  Never feel weird about asking people to make a call for you or send an e-mail to someone.  One of your best resource is the middle man who knows you and knows the church hiring.

There are other ways to find youth ministry jobs but these are the big three that I have found most helpful.  I think that you should employ all 3 at the same time and see what results you might get.  If you have any other ideas please put them in the comment section and we can chat about them.

Series: Finding a job and negotiating with a church.

Part 1: Looking for a job

Part 2: Approaching the church. Tips to get your resume read.

Part 3: Tips for Interviewing. What interviews to be prepared for.

Part 4: Negotiation 101.  All the things you should consider.

New Series: How to Negotiate with a Church

I’ve been wanting to write this particular series for a while now.  It’s something that I have some experience with and have found that I do it pretty well.  There are many things to think about as you are negotiating a possible job with a church and the package that comes with it.  I’ll be putting up a new post every two days and will go until it stops.   As a teaser here’s some areas that you need to think about. Most people don’t discuss all of these different issues (and there are others too) and end up getting to a church and realizing that expectations both ways are not what they anticipated.  If you have any other ideas to add to this series throw them in the comment section and I’ll post about them.

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Accountable too
Availability of leadership
Nights out
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Series: Finding a job and negotiating with a church.

Part 1: Looking for a job

Part 2: Approaching the church. Tips to get your resume read.

Part 3: Tips for Interviewing. What interviews to be prepared for.

Part 4: Negotiation 101.  All the things you should consider.

“There’s Jesus”

As I was walking my daughter to class today we walked by a painting hanging up in a hallway at our church.  I'm not sure why but ever since we moved here two years ago I say "There's Jesus" as we walk by it.  It's a nice painting depicting a stereotypical picture of Jesus with flowing brown hair, very feminine features and he looks like he's glowing. 

After I walked by the picture today though I couldn't help but wondering what our "All-Nations" service thinks about that painting.  We have a service at church made up primarily of about 300 people from Kenya but really from all over Africa.  That painting to them must have very little relevance and might even be offensive.

I wonder what Jesus looked like.  Growing up in the church I've heard all the arguments and the discussions about what a carpenter must have looked like, what a "mans man" he might have been and how he probably didn't have blue eyes.  All that aside though I just wonder what he was really like?  Would we have hung out?  Would we be in the same crowd?   If so does that mean I was one of the people that he was trying to save?

Just a Tuesday morning thought.  At least our Jesus painting doesn't look like the one at First Presbyterian Church of San Antonio.  They have one of Jesus that looks like he's playing Volleyball.  :)

Tuesday Update

Here's just an update about what's going on with me.

What did you do this weekend?  I was in Los Angeles attending my wife's grandfathers funeral.  He passed away a month ago which gave her whole family a chance to make it there.  We had a great time with everyone and it was a good memorial.  We also had a chance to go to our old church Bel Air Presbyterian for the Sunday morning service. It was good to see many friends and families.

What are you working on now? Updating my other blog and trying to figure out how to download a new WordPress theme, upload it, customize it and make it work. 

What are you procrastinating about?  I'm trying to put together a newsletter for families to let them know all about the Youth Ministry.  It's a lot of work and taxes my brain.  I'm also needing to call a bunch of resume's back and begin the talking process.

What are you reading?
  I just finished New Moon and enjoyed it a lot.  I've read the first two books in the series this weekend and am looking forward to reading the next two. 

What are you listening to?  Right now just thunder and lightning.  I'm typing on a mac without any music on it so I just busted out Groove Salad on Itunes radio.

What are you stoked about?  I'm stoked to have a great job, good people to work with and neighbors I love.

Empty inbox, cheaper gas bill and communication is hard.

I just finished emptying my e-mail in box.  For those of you who keep 100's of messages in there I am not judging you.  I am also the guy who tries to keep his desk clutter free but doesn't mind a pile of clothes in the bedroom.  I am all over the place.  

On a good note our home gas bill was $50 less than last month.  On a sad note it was also $150 higher than last summer.

Lastly I celebrated my 2 year anniversary of working at Highland Park Presbyterian Church and living in Dallas today.  what I've learned in two years is that I love my staff, am glad that for so many of them we've had two years together and am realizing that even after two years communication can sometimes still be hard.  I'm so blessed though to have great people though who are committed to working through this with me.

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